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Jwats
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my first CHR error message—D90

Feb 22, 2009

I re-inserted the memory card and it was fine..wonder if this is likely to be a chronic problem?

Any tips or advice?

Thanks

John

This happened to me after being out in single Fahrenheit degree weather for over three hours. I use a Sandisk Extreme III. Even after reinserting, the msg would reappear after a few shots. Only really left after I warmed up the camera.

Other than the weather, I never had this error.

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SteMa
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Re: my first CHR error message—D90

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Feb 22, 2009

I got this error today, but figured it could be the battery (I read it as CHA, I tought it means change accumulator…) I have an extreme III card 4gb, what caused this? Is it serious or nothing to worry about?

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SteMa:

I was shooting some young ladies at a Makeup party with my 2 month old Nikon D90 when I received the dreaded CHR error message as well as a FEE.. message. I was using a 4 mb SanDisk Extreme sdhc card, a Nikon battery Pack, and lens at the time. I was shooting at a pretty fast clip when the CHG error message occurred. Based on the information I gotten from other posts regarding this problem I turned the camera switch to the off position to remove the card so as not to lose any of the shots I had taken. To my horror the camera would not turn off…Panic time.. I then removed the batteries then the card. Based on previous posts and a similiar experience with my Nikon D70, I replaced the SanDisk card with a different brand of SD card, a Transcend 8 gig sdhc. That seem to take card of the CHR error message problem for the remainder of the evening and another 150 shots. I didn’t lose any images from the SanDisk card but I don’t think I will be using any SanDisk cards in this camera in the future. I found that my D70 exhibited the same problem with non recommended Memory cards. I was able to correct the problem by using a card recommended by Nikon. This could be the solution to this problem. Nikon needs to tell you this up front… OR if it’s the Card, SanDisk should fix it and tell us and/or make resitution.

Regarding the FEE message, I had to keep adjusting the lens on the camera each time it occured. This helped but didn’t stop the problem. I think there are some post on this. I will be contacting Nikon this week regarding this matter. These problems are a nuisance and very troubling for such an expensive piece of equipment. I feel somewhat betrayed, and tricked by Nikon. I believe too many people are having similiar and other problems with the D90 and I will be talking with the U.S. department of Commerce about these problems associated with this camera . At minimun there should be a fix or a recall. I’am mad. I will let you know what I find out.

If someone has already done this or found permanent fixes to these and other problems, please let us know.

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milt95033
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Re: my first CHR error message—D90

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Feb 23, 2009

There have been quite a few discussions of error problems on D90s. Here are four fairly recent threads:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=30189860

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=29813821

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=29864160

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=29577243

Reading all (or most) of these threads is a lot of work, but if anybody is interested in really figuring out the problem or problems, this is a good place to start. (I just wish Nikon would read all these threads. Most folk who call Nikon service get «We don’t know of a problem like that»)

A lot of solutions are proposed in these threads, and there are a number of folks who think they have found THE fix, but unfortunately, there are several of these fixes. Basically, it would seem the problem or problems are very intermittent, so when you try something, and it works, you think you have found THE fix, but you probably haven’t.

There do seem to be two quite distinct kinds of problems encountered in the above threads, memory card problems and lens problems.

If you get the CHA (or is it CHR, I can’t tell) msg, it is clearly a memory card problem. It is common in these cases for the green «memory card access» lamp to stay on when the camera is turned off. My own experience was like the poster above. I took out the battery, switched to a new card, (which worked) and found all my pictures OK on the old card when I got home.

I’m not at all certain, but my impression from all of the error reports and discussions listed above is that the memory card problem is not due specifically to the card or to the camera, but to the connection between the two. This explains the intermittentness of the problem, it explains the fact that extracting and reinserting the same card sometimes works, it explains why some cameras seem to have the problem a lot, but also why some cards seem to have the problem a lot.

If you have a lens problem, it seems to mostly work to fiddle with the lens, i.e. to loosen and re-tighten it.

The FEE error msg mentioned above is new to me. I don’t remember reading about it the previous threads. The D90 manual says it means the lens aperture ring is not set to minimum aperture.

If another long thread on the D90 error problems is starting here, at the very least lets keep the discussion clear on whether we are talking about the memory card problem or the lens problem. There is quite a bit of confusion on some of the threads mentioned above. If you get the CHA msg, it doesn’t help to mess with the lens!

h317
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Re: my first CHR error message—D90

I took my D90 to the local Nikon office last week for similar issues (ERR/CHA message; F— message and, on top of that, my GP-1 does not repond at all).

The lady at Nikon told me that a user usually cannot get the camera back to operational as soon as the «Err» messaag shows. I guess we all know that that is not true. Some of us can return the camera to «normal» by ejecting and reinserting the batteries. So I did a little demonstration to her right at the serevice dropoff counter …

I kept the lens cap on and pressed the shutter (sucessfully) while I gently tilted/waggled the lens up at the same time. There I took a picture with the cap on. Of the the time that I did get a «picture», it’s all black (since the cap is still on) and it shows a focal length of 7200mm !!! Some other time, the camera will display an Err and/or Cha message and lock down (just like some of you encounter). I was using Toshiba memory card at the time by the way.

That is my theory why/how the Err/Cha message occurrs. I could be wrong but I could «generate» the error message «at will» by doing that. If you encountered the Err/Cha message before, were you doing something similar (i.e lens/camera was in motion while the shutter was pressed, accidentally or not)?

I have not heard from Nikon when I could have my camera back yet.

My lens was in motion and shooting at a fast rate when my camera seized up and I got the two error messages. I had to remove the battteries from the MB80 and I exchanged the card before the D90 would work. However, I countinued to receive the F… message the remainder of the evening. This problem was corrected with the gentle twist of the 16-8mm Nikon lens mount.

H if you are right then these cameras may need to go back to Nikon for repair to the contact ring and mount assembly ( a fix mentioned in another post).

To you guys and gals in England you may be able to obtain seldom used D90’s on Ebay….cheap… very soon, I think. geezzz Nikon!!!

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Re: my first CHR error message—D90

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Feb 23, 2009

milt95033
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Re: my first CHR error message—D90

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Feb 24, 2009

h317

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I kept the lens cap on and pressed the shutter (sucessfully) while I

gently tilted/waggled the lens up at the same time. There I took a

picture with the cap on. Of the the time that I did get a «picture»,

it’s all black (since the cap is still on) and it shows a focal

length of 7200mm !!! Some other time, the camera will display an Err

and/or Cha message and lock down (just like some of you encounter). I

was using Toshiba memory card at the time by the way.

That is my theory why/how the Err/Cha message occurrs. I could be

wrong but I could «generate» the error message «at will» by doing

that. If you encountered the Err/Cha message before, were you doing

something similar (i.e lens/camera was in motion while the shutter

was pressed, accidentally or not)?

I’d like to be clear about something here. Are you saying that you can generate the CHA msg at will by manipulating the lens? If this is true, it is evidence AGAINST the theory that the CHA msg is due to problems with either the card or the card contacts. If you can generate the CHA msg by shaking the camera, that is one thing, and is in fact evidence FOR the card contact theory, but if you can generate the CHA msg by leaving the camera still but stressing or manipulating the lens/camera contact, then that’s another thing.

Thanks.

h317
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No, I did not manipulate the lens

Actually, I did not manipulate the lens. I recalled the first time I encountered the Err/Cha message was when I accidentally pressed the shutter while I was taking my camera, with the cap on, out of the bag.

Another time I was shooting low angle pictures of my model cars. As I struggled to get up from the ground, I waggled the camera as I pressed the shutter accidentally. There I had another cha/err message.

After that, I started experimenting my theory and I can say I can «generate» the error message about half of the time. I was using my 24-70 2.8f lens when I tested my theory. I should have tested it with my other lenses too but I don’t have my camera with me now. The error message always comes in this order: Err message first .. Cha message may or may not follow. And, as I said in my previous post, sometimes I was even able to take a photo with a focal length of 7200mm. The EXIF would show that I hava a lens with zoom range of 195mm-7200mm! Again, my theory could be wrong. That’s why I asked anybody who encountered this issue to recall what they were doing when it happened. I did not need to «shake» the camera at all. An innocent gentle waggle would do the trick 8

In a way, I believe it has something to do with the contact as I never twisted the lens when the error message showed.

milt95033

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h317

wrote:

I kept the lens cap on and pressed the shutter (sucessfully) while I

gently tilted/waggled the lens up at the same time. There I took a

picture with the cap on. Of the the time that I did get a «picture»,

it’s all black (since the cap is still on) and it shows a focal

length of 7200mm !!! Some other time, the camera will display an Err

and/or Cha message and lock down (just like some of you encounter). I

was using Toshiba memory card at the time by the way.

That is my theory why/how the Err/Cha message occurrs. I could be

wrong but I could «generate» the error message «at will» by doing

that. If you encountered the Err/Cha message before, were you doing

something similar (i.e lens/camera was in motion while the shutter

was pressed, accidentally or not)?

I’d like to be clear about something here. Are you saying that you

can generate the CHA msg at will by manipulating the lens? If this

is true, it is evidence AGAINST the theory that the CHA msg is due to

problems with either the card or the card contacts. If you can

generate the CHA msg by shaking the camera, that is one thing, and is

in fact evidence FOR the card contact theory, but if you can generate

the CHA msg by leaving the camera still but stressing or manipulating

the lens/camera contact, then that’s another thing.

Thanks.

VictorZ
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Error may also be caused by «lock» switch on card…

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Feb 24, 2009

If the card is «locked» … i.e., write protected … you’ll also see a CHA/R? error. Sometimes the little switch gets «bumped» when inserting it in the camera. In any case, it’s a card error. S