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S-Drive Flash Codes

Low Battery Voltage
The battery needs charging or there is a bad connection to the battery. Check the connections to the battery. If the connections are good, try charging the battery.

Motor Disconnected
The motor has a bad connection. Check all the connections and leads between the motor and the S-drive Check the position of the freewheel switch.

Motor Wiring Trip
The motor has a short circuit to a battery. Check all the connections and leads between the motor and the battery.

Freewheel Switch Trip
The freewheel switch is activated or the manual brake disengagement mechanism is operated. Check the position of the switch or lever and all connections between the switch and the S-drive.

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Charger Connected
The S-drive is being inhibited from driving. Inhibit 2 is active. This may be because the battery charger is connected or the seat is not in the driving position.

Throttle Trip
A throttle trip is indicated. Make sure that the throttle is in the neutral position before switching on the scooter.

Possible Control System Trip
A control system trip is indicated. Make sure that all connections are secure.

Solenoid Brake Trip
The parking brakes have a bad connection. Check the parking brake and motor connections. Make sure all the system connections are secure.

High Battery Voltage
An excessive voltage has been applied to the S-drive. This is usually caused by a poor battery connection. Check the battery connections.

Commonly Seen Informational Flash Codes

Control System in Sleep Mode
The S-drve has entered sleep mode. Switch the scooter off and then on again.

Charge Step 
The batteries are charging.

Throttle Displaced
The throttle has been displaced whilst the scooter is being switched on. Place the throttle in the neutral position and turn the scooter off and on again.

If the problems persist after you have made the checks described above please contact your service agent.

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ECHNICAL

ANUAL

It may be possible to program settings which compromise the stability of the machine. Perform suitable tests to establish which

programming restrictions are needed to prevent instability. State any programming restrictions in the machine user handbook.

State in the machine user handbook that it is the responsibility of the person programming the controller to make sure that the

settings are safe and to note any programming changes that they make.

Programming should only be conducted by electronic service professionals with in-depth

knowledge of PGDT electronic controllers. Incorrect programming could result in an unsafe set-up

of a machine for the user. PGDT accepts no liability for losses of any kind if the programming of

the controller is altered from the factory preset values. PGDT accepts no liability for losses of

any kind if the drive or stability characteristics of the machine are altered without prior

notification and discussion with PGDT.

1.5

If the version of i-Drive you have has the Soft-Stop function enabled (see controller data sheet), you must ensure that the

emergency stopping distance is within the distance specified for the country in which the machine will be used.

1.6

Other Information

You must provide a diagram in the machine user handbook showing the user controls. In addition, you should include a brief

specification of operating supply voltage range and operating temperature range.

2

Immobilizing the Machine

2.1

Prevention of Unauthorized Use

Some markets require the machine to have a means of preventing unauthorized use. This typically means fitting a keyswitch that

can prevent the controller from being switched on.

2.2

Charger Interlock

Legislation may require you to provide a means of preventing the use of the machine while the batteries are being charged. The

i-Drive includes 2 inhibit inputs either of which can be used to provide this function. Refer to Sections 4.11 and 4.12 for details.

Contact PGDT if you need advice.

The machine manufacturer is responsible for providing a means of preventing the use of the

machine while the batteries are being charged. PGDT accepts no liability for losses of any kind

arising from failure to comply with this condition.

3

Connections

3.1

General

Study the data sheet for the controller to identify:

The output current, ratings and restrictions.

The connector pin assignments.

Recommendations for the cross-sectional area, ratings and materials for wiring are shown in Section 3.4. These depend on the

application. You are responsible for establishing the suitability of the particular wiring arrangement used on the machine. PGDT

can make general recommendations for wiring to the i-Drive controller, but PGDT accepts no responsibility for the wiring

arrangement used.

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SK76977-07

Specifications:

1642/1642962-idrive_series.pdf file (08 Dec 2022)

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PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Hi,

I use an Omegatrac with 2 S-Drive Controllers. It uses a drive motor and a steering motor. The drive motor will randomly keep going forward as i let go of joystick.

I’m using a APEM 4000 5k which ehh,, might be an issue.. it needs to share high and low sides of the pots…

Could it be the motor? if its drawing random currents,, will the controller think the motor going faster than it is going, orrrr???

Thx

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby Burgerman » 11 Oct 2020, 19:15

No. You likely dont have the neutral point set accurately enough, or you have electrical noise that is caused by inadequate wiring screening to the joystick module. You MIGHT be able to set a wider deadband in the controller via its software, or recalibrate the neutral point.

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby kirkreiten » 11 Oct 2020, 19:48

Deadband… its 10%

Deadband would be my goto thought too …….. however, as it happens, it usually ramps up to max speed, limited to a inline speed Pot. Most times it happens after i back up.

the inline pot is set at 10k.. if i’m outside, i drop it to about 0.5k

The cable is ~15in long, shielded

It happens randomly maybe 1%, 2% of the stops.

Odd?

Thx

Kirk

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby kirkreiten » 11 Oct 2020, 19:51

BTW:: joystick is in a .125in walled aluminum box

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby Burgerman » 11 Oct 2020, 20:06

Is the cable screened? If not, theres the problem.

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby kirkreiten » 11 Oct 2020, 20:24

Sorry for the few posts.. [i’m a texter]

Last bit.. I was using PGDT D40972 joysticks (discontinued) They’d last a year or three… Wipers would wear.. never have this issue. except when a low side came off, almost drove me into a glass wall. [joys of CP!]

Swapped out the controller.. same issue.. swapped APEM4000s it went away for a month or two

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby kirkreiten » 11 Oct 2020, 20:28

sorry Braided cable — i call it (shielded)

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby Burgerman » 11 Oct 2020, 21:12

Sorry for the few posts.. [i’m a texter]

Last bit.. I was using PGDT D40972 joysticks (discontinued) They’d last a year or three… Wipers would wear.. never have this issue. except when a low side came off, almost drove me into a glass wall. [joys of CP!]

Swapped out the controller.. same issue.. swapped APEM4000s it went away for a month or two

Thx

If wired and configured correctly a wire coming off should cause an instant error and stop you dead. There shoud be safety bands at each end of the pot that prevent that.

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby woodygb » 11 Oct 2020, 21:58

kirkreiten wrote:Deadband… its 10%

Deadband would be my goto thought too …….. however, as it happens, it usually ramps up to max speed, limited to a inline speed Pot. Most times it happens after i back up.

the inline pot is set at 10k.. if i’m outside, i drop it to about 0.5k

The cable is ~15in long, shielded

It happens randomly maybe 1%, 2% of the stops.

Odd?

Thx

Kirk

An inline pot.

PGDT say’s that this is another the way to do it….

SPEED POT.png

Rather than…

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby woodygb » 11 Oct 2020, 22:22

Page 31- 32 of the S-Drive Tech manual SK76745/6 shows the 2 configurations and has a warning concerning series ( inline ) pots.
Also the recommended Parallel pot value is 100k NOT 25k as shown in the pic… 25k is the recommended value for a series or inline pot.

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An ISO-Test Resistor should be fitted in as close proximity to the Throttle Pot. as possible. A
recommendation would be to solder the ISO-Test Resistor to the Throttle Pot.
If an ISO-Test resistor is fitted and a series connected speed limiting potentiometer is used, then
depending on the setting of the potentiometer, it may not be possible to detect a short-circuit
between the Throttle side of the potentiometer and either of the throttle references

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Re: PGDT S-Drive Motor Keeps Going

Postby kirkreiten » 11 Oct 2020, 23:22

Ya, I have the manual — actually designing a whole new control system using the parallel speed setup. Unfortunately it’s a few months away…

The controller isn’t faulting… Real odd…

Anyway… Thanks.

Thoughts are always welcome

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18 Янв 2020 в 23:58

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Если память чистая, можно будет поставить стандартные настройки. Надо смотреть, что осталось.



19 Янв 2020 в 01:45

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Нет соединения с модулем (INACTIV).  Шнурок на PL2303 + резистор + диод.



19 Янв 2020 в 13:11

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Нет соединения с модулем (INACTIV).

Контроллер подключен к питанию 24V?
Коляска должна быть включена, джойстик подсоединён к контроллеру. :ку:



22 Янв 2020 в 17:03

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 Контроллер включен. Разъем джойстика из разъема на плате не вынимал (подключен). Быстро моргают 8 светодиодов.
     А вот понятие: «Джойстик подсоединен к контроллеру»,  это как? У меня джойстик и контроллер на одной плате и в одном корпусе.
    Чтоб записать стандартные настройки, надо чтобы было соединение компутера с блоком. А программа кажет INACTIV. Шнурок у меня на PL2303. Может он не годится?



23 Янв 2020 в 14:08

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Забыл, VSI контроллер в джойстике. Тогда проще, не правильно работает ваш адаптер,

Шнурок у меня на PL2303. Может он не годится?

соберите его на базе FTDI FT232RL.



31 Июл 2020 в 16:06

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здравствуйте, и чем все закончилось? Удалось победить ошибку 8светодиодов.  Такая же проблема, уже неделю ковыряю этот пульт, но дело не в пзу. Я понял через разьм зарядки через сом порт  можно подключиться к компьтеру,  эта программа выполняет диагностику? Где ее скачать?



04 Авг 2020 в 10:45

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Я понял через разьм зарядки через сом порт  можно подключиться к компьтеру,  эта программа выполняет диагностику? Где ее скачать?

Прогу отправил на вашу почту. :hello:
Только это дело не простое, можно окончательно убить настройки. :ку:
Какая у вас коляска?



05 Авг 2020 в 15:06

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Спасидбо большое, получил программу, только что кабель сделал, правда на МАХ242, сразу заработало, выдает trip code 0204 Control system fault, в таблице кодов на support.pgdt : Check condition of batteries, motor(s) and connections.
If the trip persists then the controller may be defective and should be returned to PG Drives Technology.
Очень информативно, думаю что дальше делать.



05 Авг 2020 в 15:15

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Sascha

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Хорошо б его схему найти.
Что произошло:  я думаю так дело было, товарищи разобрали пульт чтоб поменять резинку на джойстике, котора рассыпалась, перестал заряжаться аккумулятор, его отдали ремонтировать какому то электрику, он зачемто выпаял мощный резистор на 7.5 ом, а заместо него впаял проволоку миллиметроаой толщины, расковыряв отверстия в плате и выдрав металлизацию. Возможно там была связь во внутренних слоях. Теперь он всегда моргает 8 светодиодами вне зависимости подключено чтото или нет.



05 Авг 2020 в 15:31

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Sascha

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что сейчас происходит: при включении кнопкой открывается 762 ключ , который подает напряжение на силовую часть через резисто  7.5 ом. И процессор останавливается, только перебирает по очереди каналы коммутаторов HCF4051.
Вот такие напряжения может кто разбирался
Левый коммутатор (если транзисторы слева)
0. канал 0 вольт
1. 2.5 (джойстик)
2. 0.2
3. 2.5 (джойстик)
4. 2.8
5. 2.5
6. 1.2
7. земля

Правый коммутатор
0. 2.4
1. 2.5 (джойстик)
2. 5
3. 2.5 (джойстик)
4. 2.8
5. 3
6. 5
7. Земля
Потенциометром я пробовал менять напряжения, но процессор не реагирует.



05 Авг 2020 в 16:54

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коляска какя я не знаю, мне дали посмотреть только эту металлическую калошу. Программа опознает его как VSI, controler type number D0. На плате написано Р76532 issue 0541.



06 Авг 2020 в 16:41

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похоже дело все таки в пзушке. Сигнал есть только на клоке и выборе, на данных нули, выпаял, действительно входные и выходные данные на корпус звонятся.



10 Авг 2020 в 19:08

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здравствуйте люди добрые. помогите коли сможете. есть коляска FS123 все работало не было печали. как вдруг в один прекрасный день вот так жалобно замигала и все. может знает кто что за недуг с ней приключился.



15 Авг 2020 в 13:55

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помогите коли сможете.

Могу только предложить проверить контроллер, он должен сообщить об шибки. :ку:



15 Авг 2020 в 14:09

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это круто! дружище не сочти за труд расскажи как это сделать, я немного туповат. или ссылку кинь. пожалуйста.



17 Авг 2020 в 13:32

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расскажи как это сделать

Всё просто, можно прислать мне контроллер с джойстиком, или всё сделать самому.
Спаять провод, установить программу, подключиться к коляске, вот инфа. ссылка
ссылка
С коляской проще. Ссылка будет активна день. :ку:



11 Янв 2021 в 16:06

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Коляску сделали?Такой блок на коляске Дельта Электро 01 мигают восемь светодиодов.Есть прошивка 93С66?Можно за денежку.



17 Мар 2021 в 13:00

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