Ошибка usb sample rate mismatch on usb console 48000 yamaha tf

Message

Item Already Exists. Replace it?

Displayed when you are about to store (overwrite) a Library.

When using Save As, the name of the file you tried to save was the

File Already Exists, Replace it?

same name as an existing file.

Displayed when you are about to save (overwrite) data.

Exceed Maximum Number!

The Library exceeds the maximum number of items and cannot be

Library A:XXXX items, Library B:XXXX

loaded.

items

File System is Not Ready. This

You tried to start recording immediately after connecting a USB storage

Operation can Overwrite Existing Files

device (i.e., while a list was being generated). You tried to change the

or Directories.

name of a file or directory.

Over Current Error! This USB Device is

The USB device was disconnected because overcurrent was detected in

Not Supported. Please Disconnect.

the USB connection.

Tio OUTPUT is in Use by Another TF.

The OUTPUT of the Tio1608-D is already in use by a console using

«with OUTPUT» in Quick Config is

Quick Config, therefore the «with OUTPUT» in Quick Config was turned

Turned off.

off for this console.

An error occurred during the operation. (This is a general error.)

Operation Failed!

Less severe than «Unknown».

(Between «Unknown» and «Ignore».)

Invalid Name!

Name violates naming convention.

The feature assigned to the knob was not operated. The operation had

no effect.

Operation Ignored.

This message refers to Tips operations for User Defined Knobs.

This message is displayed when the feature assigned to a User Defined

Knob cannot be operated.

No data is stored in the Scene you tried to recall, or the data is

SCENE #XX is Empty!

damaged.

SCENE #XX is Read Only!

You tried to overwrite a Scene that is write-protected.

Cannot Store!

Could not save the data in the Scene memory or in the Library.

Cannot Recall!

Could not recall the data from the Scene memory or from the Library.

Operation Failed. Library X Memory

You tried to add data when the memory was full.

Full.

A or B will be entered into X.

The sample rate setting of the NY64-D is incorrect, therefore it cannot

Wrong Word Clock! (Slot)

sync with the console.

Turn Off 1-knob Mode to Adjust.

1-knob mode is enabled; turn 1-knob mode off.

Nothing to Paste!

You tried to paste data when the copy buffer was empty.

Cannot Bookmark This Screen.

You tried to bookmark a screen that cannot be bookmarked.

Page Does not Exist.

Cannot Close This Popup.

Not Bookmarked.

The item is not bookmarked.

The operation could not be performed because the USB memory was

File Busy! Operation Denied.

being accessed.

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Message

Unsupported File Format!

You tried to read an unsupported file format from the USB memory.

Storage Not Found!

The USB memory could not be recognized.

Couldn’t Write File.

The file could not be saved to the USB memory.

Could not overwrite the file on the USB memory because the file is

File Protected!

write-protected.

The name of the directory you tried to create matches the name of an

existing directory.

Already Exists!

This message may also be displayed when editing a file or directory

name.

Couldn’t Access File.

Could not access the file on the USB memory for some reason.

File Error!

An internal file access error occurred.

Format Error!

An error occurred during formatting.

USB Storage Unmounted! Recorder

Recording stopped because the USB memory was removed during

Stopped.

recording.

Recording stopped because the USB memory became full during

USB Storage Full! Recorder Stopped.

recording.

Maximum Number of Audio Files

The number of files supported by the USB recorder was exceeded.

Exceeded!

Recording or playback stopped because time is required for a USB

USB Storage Busy: Recorder Stopped!

storage device process.

A USB memory device with an allocation unit size under 4096 bytes

Illegal Storage Format! Format USB

was connected. If you record in this situation, the format may become

Device with the Other USB Port.

damaged.

Low Battery!

The backup battery’s voltage is low.

Illegal IP Address!

The IP address setting or gateway setting is incorrect.

The same rates of the console and the computer that is connected to

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB.

the USB TO HOST connector are different. (Console: 44.1 kHz, PC; 48

Console:44100Hz

kHz)

Set the sample rate of the computer to 44.1 kHz.

The same rates of the console and the computer that is connected to

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB.

the USB TO HOST connector are different. (Console: 48kHz, PC;

Console:48000Hz

44.1kHz)

Set the sample rate of the computer to 48kHz.

Two or More Devices Have Same Unit

Two or more devices connected to the NY64-D via the Dante network

ID!

have the same UNIT ID.

Dante Module Error!

An error occurred with the Dante module of the NY64-D or Tio1608-D.

The MAC address of the NY64-D is damaged and communication is not

Illegal Dante Module MAC Address!

possible.

Dante Module Memory Error!

An memory error occurred with the Dante module of the Tio1608-D.

An excessive amount of audio data was sent over the Dante network

Dante Audio Resource Overflow

connected to the NY64-D.

Reference

Description

TF Series

Reference Manual

Ingoo

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Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

Hi folks, I’m new around here, so please go easy on me. I’ve done my best to search the forum and the interwebs for answers, but can’t seem to find what I’m looking for.

My church has a Yamaha TF1 as our FOH console. It comes with a license of Nuendo Live 2, which allows us to record each channel to separate WAV files during live performances. This can be used for virtual soundcheck and audio training. However, Nuendo is a clunky solution to operate. I own a license of Ableton Live 10 and would love to use that instead of Nuendo.

We have a Host USB out on the TF1 console which connects to the laptop running Nuendo. When you start Nuendo (with the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver installed), it automatically loads 34 tracks of audio (32 mono + 2 stereo for the masters) and records at the push of a button, essentially. After the recording is done, or after loading a previous recording, and setting the inputs on the TF1 to USB (rather than the default line/mic option), I can playback the recording and control levels/effects etc on the TF1 console as if I had the original musicians and singers on stage.

I spent an hour this morning trying to get the same thing configured in Ableton and couldn’t do it. The best I managed was Ableton recognising a single mic channel for recording, but no other audio tracks in Ableton were picking up any signal from the TF1. Also, playing back multitrack recordings from Ableton to the TF1 resulted in only the stereo masters coming through channel 1 and 2 on the TF1 console.

I would greatly love your help with this. Thanks in advance.


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:32 am

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Ingoo

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:41 am

Yes…. not sure exactly what you’re prompting with that link…

Running Ableton Live 10.1.30

If you need more info about my laptop, I can provide that. It’s a 2020 Dell XPS 13 (9310), with Windows 10 Home 20H2 build I believe. As I said, I followed instructions to us the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver, and can ‘see’ the TF as input and output device options.

I suspect my issue is in the routing within Ableton. This is something I’m completely new to.

(If you posted that link for some other reason, you might want to help me out by spelling it out).


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:13 am

Alright, so an update on this…I’ve partly figured it out.
It was to do with channel routing, which I’ve never used before.

Now that I’ve figured out how to do that, everything seems to be recording and playing back as expected…except…every minute or two, the playback stops briefly and then continues. It’s as if it’s a buffer issue?? Maybe? Any suggestions on what to check?


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:35 pm

Try reading the link provided, cant and wont help those that wont offer basic info, wasting my time.

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Mark Williams wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:35 pm

Try reading the link provided, cant and wont help those that wont offer basic info, wasting my time.

I did read the link, and feel like I’ve provided a reasonable amount of information. Seems to me you are not willing to help…thanks for wasting my time.

It doesn’t help anyone to repeatedly reply to these threads saying «you didn’t give any info so I’m not going to help you! :roll: «. This just drives away new people looking for help, which is one of the main purposes of these forums. If you truly want to help, then be helpful and let that user know what kind of info to provide so they know going forward. If you are too annoyed to do that, then just don’t reply instead.


Mark Williams

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:51 pm

Ingoo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

I did read the link, and feel like I’ve provided a reasonable amount of information. Seems to me you are not willing to help…thanks for wasting my time.

Yet you still FAIL to give us any real info to go on.

Here try reading and following the info required. All basic stuff.

— Make sure you’re using the latest version of Live available to you.
— Update your OS to the most current version (if you can).
— Make sure ALL your drivers are up to date for things like your sound card, computer, motherboard, etc.
— Try the default drivers for your soundcard, ASIO4ALL is not a magic solution to all situations. The included drivers are almost always better in fact.
— Provide some details about your computer system, audio interface, what version of Live you are using, what OS, etc.

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Ingoo

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:40 pm

Live is up to date afaik. v10.1.30
My laptop is up to date, including all drivers.
I have provided the info about the interface, OS, computer system and version of Live.

If I’ve neglected some other vital piece of info why don’t you let me know what you need to know.

It seems none of this had anything to do with my initial routing issues…but I guess it could have.

Any help on the glitching audio in playing back multitrack recordings (as described below), I’d be grateful.


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:20 pm

Have you tried adjusting the buffer sizes in Ableton preferences? Another thing worth checking and ensuring both Ableton and Windows are using the exact same settings, sample rates etc.

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:41 am

Mark Williams wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:20 pm

Have you tried adjusting the buffer sizes in Ableton preferences? Another thing worth checking and ensuring both Ableton and Windows are using the exact same settings, sample rates etc.

Thanks for sticking with me Mark. That’s greatly appreciated!

When I had Live connected to the TF console with ASIO | Yamaha Steinberg drivers selected, I feel like I didn’t have the option to change the buffer size. I’ll have to double-check that next time I’m at the church and can connect everything up again. This was where my noob brain went immediately when the audio would cut out for a second or so periodically during playback. I’ll check the settings next chance I get and revert with more info.

Yes, AFAIK, Windows, Live and the TF were all set to 48000 sample rate (as this is the fixed rate in the TF console). If either Windows or Ableton (or both) don’t have their sample rate set to 48000, the console complains by putting a «Sample Rate Mismatch. Rate must be 48000» message on the console screen.

Thanks again for your patience mate.


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Предостережения и сообщения об ошибках

Сообщение

Описание

Item Already Exists. Replace it?

Отображается перед сохранением (перезаписью) библиотеки.

File Already Exists, Replace it?

При использовании функции Save As имя файла, под которым этот файл 
хотели сохранить, оказалось идентичным имени существующего файла.
Отображается перед сохранением (перезаписью) данных.

Exceed Maximum Number!
Library A:XXXX items, Library B:XXXX 
items

Превышено максимальное количество элементов в библиотеке, 
поэтому ее невозможно загрузить.

File System is Not Ready. This Operation 
can Overwrite Existing Files or Directories.

Была попытка начать запись немедленно после подключения 
накопителя USB (то есть до того, как список был сформирован). Была 
попытка изменить имя файла или каталога.

Over Current Error! This USB Device is Not 
Supported. Please Disconnect.

Устройство USB было отсоединено, так как на разъеме USB было 
зафиксировано превышение допустимого тока.

Tio OUTPUT is in Use by Another TF.
«with OUTPUT» in Quick Config is Turned 
off.

Выходной канал OUTPUT устройства Tio1608-D уже используется 
консолью через функцию Quick Config, поэтому кнопка «with OUTPUT» в 
Quick Config выключена для этой консоли.

Operation Failed!

При выполнении операции произошла ошибка. (Ошибка общего 
характера.)
Менее серьезная, чем «Unknown».
(Между «Unknown» и «Ignore».)

Invalid Name!

Имя не соответствует правилам именования.

Operation Ignored.

Функция, назначенная регулятору, не выполнена. Операция не имела 
эффекта.
Это сообщение относится к операциям Tips для регуляторов User 
Defined Knobs.
Это сообщение отображается, когда функцию, назначенную регулятору 
User Defined Knob, невозможно выполнить.

SCENE #XX is Empty!

В наборе Scene, который вы попытались загрузить, нет данных (либо 
данные повреждены).

SCENE #XX is Read Only!

Была попытка перезаписать набор Scene, защищенный от записи.

Cannot Store!

Не удалось сохранить данные в памяти, предназначенной для хранения 
наборов Scene или списков Library.

Cannot Recall!

Не удалось загрузить данные из памяти, предназначенной для 
хранения наборов Scene или списков Library.

Operation Failed. Library X Memory Full.

Была попытка добавления данных в переполненную память.
A или B попадет в X.

Wrong Word Clock! (Slot)

Неправильная настройка частоты дискретизации для NY64-D, поэтому 
карту невозможно синхронизировать с консолью.

Turn Off 1-knob Mode to Adjust.

Активен режим 1-knob; деактивируйте режим 1-knob.

Nothing to Paste!

Была попытка вставки данных из пустого буфера обмена.

Cannot Bookmark This Screen.

Была попытка сохранить закладку на экран, который не рассчитан на 
сохранение закладок.

Page Does not Exist.

Cannot Close This Popup.

Not Bookmarked.

Закладка на этот элемент не сохранена.

File Busy! Operation Denied.

Операцию невозможно выполнить, так как память USB в настоящее 
время используется другим процессом.

Unsupported File Format!

Была попытка чтения файла, формат которого не поддерживается, из 
памяти USB.

Storage Not Found!

Невозможно распознать память USB.

Couldn’t Write File.

Этот файл невозможно сохранить в памяти USB.

File Protected!

Невозможно перезаписать файл, сохраненный в памяти USB, так как 
этот файл защищен от записи.

Already Exists!

Имя каталога, который вы пытаетесь создать, совпадает с именем 
существующего каталога.
Это сообщение может также отображаться при попытке 
редактирования файла или имени каталога.

Couldn’t Access File.

По какой-либо причине невозможно получить доступ к файлу, 
сохраненному в памяти USB.

File Error!

Произошла ошибка доступа к внутреннему файлу.

Format Error!

При выполнении форматирования произошла ошибка.

USB Storage Unmounted! Recorder 
Stopped.

Запись остановлена, так как память USB во время записи была 
отсоединена.

USB Storage Full! Recorder Stopped.

Запись остановлена, так как память USB во время записи была 
переполнена.

Maximum Number of Audio Files 
Exceeded!

Превышено максимальное количество файлов, поддерживаемых 
звукозаписывающим устройством USB.

USB Storage Busy: Recorder Stopped!

Процесс записи или воспроизведения остановлен, так как необходимо 
время на обработку данных для накопителя USB.

Illegal Storage Format! Format USB Device 
with the Other USB Port.

Подключен накопитель USB с размером кластера меньше 4096 байт. 
При выполнении записи в такой ситуации формат может быть 
поврежден.

Low Battery!

Напряжение резервной аккумуляторной батареи опустилось ниже 
нормы.

Illegal IP Address!

IP-адрес или параметры шлюза не соответствуют необходимым 
требованиям.

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB. 
Console:44100Hz

Отличаются значения частоты, установленные на консоли и на 
компьютере, подключенном к разъему USB TO HOST. (Консоль: 44,1 кГц, 
ПК: 48 кГц)
Установите для частоты дискретизации на компьютере значение 
44,1 кГц.

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB. 
Console:48000Hz

Отличаются значения частоты, установленные на консоли и на 
компьютере, подключенном к разъему USB TO HOST. (Консоль: 48 кГц, 
ПК: 44,1 кГц)
Установите для частоты дискретизации на компьютере значение 48 кГц.

Two or More Devices Have Same Unit ID!

Два или более устройств, подключенных к NY64-D по сети Dante, 
используют одинаковые UNIT ID.

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Error messages

Message Description

Item Already Exists. Replace it? You tried to overwrite an item in the Library.

File Already Exists, Replace it?

When using Save As, the name of the file you tried to save was the same name as an existing file.

When using Save. you tried to overwrite an existing file.

Operation Failed! An error occurred during the operation. (This is a general error.)

Invalid Name! Name violates naming convention.

Operation Ignored. The feature assigned to the USER DEFINED KNOB could not be operated when the message was displayed.

SCENE #XX is Empty! No data is stored in the Scene you tried to recall, or the data is damaged.

SCENE #XX is Read Only! You tried to overwrite a Scene that is write-protected.

Cannot Store! Could not save the data in the Scene memory or in the library.

Cannot Recall! Could not recall the data from the Scene memory or from the library.

LIBRARY is Read Only! You tried to overwrite data in the library that is write-protected.

Operation Failed. Library Memory Full. You tried to add data when the memory was full.

Turn Off 1-knob Mode to Adjust. 1-knob mode is enabled; turn 1-knob mode off.

Nothing to Paste! You tried to paste data when the copy buffer was empty.

Page does not exist. The page does not exist.

Cannot Close This Popup. The popup could not be closed.

Unsupported File Format! You tried to read an unsupported file format.

Couldn’t Write File. The file could not be saved.

File Protected! Could not overwrite the file because the file is write-protected.

Already Exists! The name of the directory you tried to create or edit matches the name of an existing directory.

Couldn’t Access File. Could not access the file for some reason.

File Error! An internal file access error occurred.

Illegal IP Address! The IP address setting or gateway setting is incorrect.

Wrong Word Clock! (Slot) Could not sync to the console because the NY64-D sample rate setting is incorrect.

Wrong Word Clock! (Dante Device)

Could not sync to the NY64-D because the sample rate of the device connected to the Dante network that is

connected to the console via the NY64-D is incorrect.

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB.

Console:44100Hz

The sample rates of the console and the computer that is connected via the USB TO HOST connector do not

match. (Console: 44.1 kHz, Computer: 48 kHz) Set the computer’s sample rate to 44.1 kHz.

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB.

Console:48000Hz

The sample rates of the console and the computer that is connected via the USB TO HOST connector do not

match. (Console: 48 kHz, Computer: 44.1 kHz) Set the computer’s sample rate to 48 kHz.

Alex Menco

  • #1

Кубейс3. Карточка Аудиофил 2496.
проблема вот в чём. В найстройках карточки меня вообще всегда бесило то, что непонятно как переключать sample rate)) Вот сейчас у меня там стоит 48000. В кубе работаю именно с этой частотой. Но вот после закрытия куба, открываю винамп и там песни играются выше чем обычно. Т.е. как если бы в кубе в проекте с 48000 загрузить сэмпл с частотой 44100. После перезагрузки всё в норме снова. Что это за фигня? как исправить? Ну и может заодно кто нибудь скажет почему так криво частота в настройках карты меняется? вот щас пытаюсь на 44100 поставить, а он обратно ставит на 48000. галки напротив Rate Locked не стоит..

  • #2

Кьюбейс и нуенда подхватывает частоту дискретизации, которая стоит по умолчанию. Бывают такие глюки с картой, что она начинает дуплить после загрузки определённых программ. Попробуй просто выгрузить дрова и загрузить их снова. :thank_you2:

  • #3

а в аудиофиле частота не лочится? я в мии залочиваю 44 100 и у меня все проги играют в ней. если разлочить — бывает такая же ерунда…

Alex Menco

  • #4

лочится.. но если я 48000 поставлю, то винамп один фиг будет играть не правильно. а если 44100 залочу, то в кубе проект не сделать в 48000.

Stefan2009, выгрузить дрова это как? переустановить чтоли?

  • #5

а какой смысл, делать проект в 48? и ли ты пишешь в двд формате?

Alex Menco

  • #6

ну сам проект то когда делаешь, насколько мне известно чем больше частота и битность тем лучше.. естессно потом экспортирую в 44100
со своей проблемой разобрался. просто в винампе поставил устройство вывода звука другое и всё!)

  • #7

У меня глюки с Sample Rate в Кубейс3.
При создании нового проекта куб вдруг меняет частоту и показыкает мол на 44100, хотя она раньше и всегда была такой. И в результате вся мультимедиа проигрывается медленно будто в другой понижанной тональности(в настройках звуковой карты аудиофил 192 тоже 44100 Rate), а в кубе нормально. Возвращается все на свои места после перезагрузки или изменения в кубе на 48000, но мне это не к чему.

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ALexeY61 написал(а):

насколько мне известно чем больше частота и битность тем лучше..

Не совсем. Поищи в поиске…
При использовании софтового ресемплинга, при понижении частоты в 44 100, ты получаешь тот же результат, как если бы изначально писал в 44 100 не используя ресемплинг.

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Есть способ изменить частоту-переключится в режим S/PDIF in потом переключить частоту и вернуться обратно в режим internal Xtal. делаеться все за несколько секунд.

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 0:17

Всем привет. Обрыл весь интернет и форум, и так не нашел решение данной проблемы. 

Может кто сталкивался

Пробовал сделать по этой инструкции не помогло http://forum.myarena…pesne-do-44100/

Сообщение отредактировал imperial_92: 18 Июнь 2017 — 0:22

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 1:07

После того, как конвертером изменил звуки их нужно переименовать, исправить пути и обновить контент-хостинг.

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 2:08

Зачем их переименовывать, если название не поменялось, и ошибка не *** Invalid sample rate (48000) for sound……..
А *** Invalid sample rate (0)

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 3:02

Зачем их переименовывать, если название не поменялось, и ошибка не *** Invalid sample rate (48000) for sound……..
А *** Invalid sample rate (0)

За надом.

Поставили вы звуки. Они скачались игрокам. Потом только обнаружили то, что со звуками проблемы. Исправили, залили заново. Игрокам то есть должны скачаться новые. НО — сервер, видя звуки с теми же названиями в той же директории у игроков, не скачиваются заново, ибо мол зачем? Это же глупо. Получается, что у игроков, ранее уже скачавших проблемные звуки, эти проблемные звуки и будут, а новые нет. Укажите другие названия у звуков, либо измените директорию для новых.

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 6:32

За надом.

Поставили вы звуки. Они скачались игрокам. Потом только обнаружили то, что со звуками проблемы. Исправили, залили заново. Игрокам то есть должны скачаться новые. НО — сервер, видя звуки с теми же названиями в той же директории у игроков, не скачиваются заново, ибо мол зачем? Это же глупо. Получается, что у игроков, ранее уже скачавших проблемные звуки, эти проблемные звуки и будут, а новые нет. Укажите другие названия у звуков, либо измените директорию для новых.

Согласен, ну только даже после конвертации они не работают, проблема в другом.

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 13:41

Согласен, ну только даже после конвертации они не работают, проблема в другом.

Они и не будут работать, если не поменяете название или не измените директорию при заливке на сервер и скачивании!

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Отправлено 18 Июнь 2017 — 14:01

Они и не будут работать, если не поменяете название или не измените директорию при заливке на сервер и скачивании!

Да я их удалил у себя и заново скачал, чтобы проверить

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Отправлено 07 Июль 2017 — 20:26

Та же проблема. Менял конвертором до 22, и wav c 11 пробовал. Переименовывал. Даже серв переустанавливал. В последней попытке сразу указал в конфиге нуть на фтп для докачки. Теперь даже стоковых звуков нет которые с плагинами идут и раньше работали. Что-то вообще не айс получается.

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Зачем их переименовывать, если название не поменялось, и ошибка не *** Invalid sample rate (48000) for sound……..
А *** Invalid sample rate (0)

а эта ошибка разве не связанна с частотой .тоесть слишком большие бассы

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Отправлено 11 Июль 2017 — 13:51

Решил проблему. В настройках конфига /cfg/server.cfg поменял настройки sv-pure Проверка соответствия файлов сервера и клиента. Вместо 0 поставил 1. Сначала серв поругался на рейты звуков которые я до этого занизил *** Invalid sample rate (32000). Но после замены звуков через те же конверторы до 44000 все заработало. Да, имена звукам даны другие и в /cfg/server.cfg изменен параметр sv_downloadurl Место, из которого клиенты могут загрузить недостающие файлы на адрес сервера из FTP

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Displayed when you are about to store (overwrite) a Library.

When using Save As, the name of the file you tried to save was the

File Already Exists, Replace it?

same name as an existing file.

Displayed when you are about to save (overwrite) data.

Exceed Maximum Number!

The Library exceeds the maximum number of items and cannot be

Library A:XXXX items, Library B:XXXX

loaded.

items

File System is Not Ready. This

You tried to start recording immediately after connecting a USB storage

Operation can Overwrite Existing Files

device (i.e., while a list was being generated). You tried to change the

or Directories.

name of a file or directory.

Over Current Error! This USB Device is

The USB device was disconnected because overcurrent was detected in

Not Supported. Please Disconnect.

the USB connection.

Tio OUTPUT is in Use by Another TF.

The OUTPUT of the Tio1608-D is already in use by a console using

«with OUTPUT» in Quick Config is

Quick Config, therefore the «with OUTPUT» in Quick Config was turned

Turned off.

off for this console.

An error occurred during the operation. (This is a general error.)

Operation Failed!

Less severe than «Unknown».

(Between «Unknown» and «Ignore».)

Invalid Name!

Name violates naming convention.

The feature assigned to the knob was not operated. The operation had

no effect.

Operation Ignored.

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This message is displayed when the feature assigned to a User Defined

Knob cannot be operated.

No data is stored in the Scene you tried to recall, or the data is

SCENE #XX is Empty!

damaged.

SCENE #XX is Read Only!

You tried to overwrite a Scene that is write-protected.

Cannot Store!

Could not save the data in the Scene memory or in the Library.

Cannot Recall!

Could not recall the data from the Scene memory or from the Library.

Operation Failed. Library X Memory

You tried to add data when the memory was full.

Full.

A or B will be entered into X.

The sample rate setting of the NY64-D is incorrect, therefore it cannot

Wrong Word Clock! (Slot)

sync with the console.

Turn Off 1-knob Mode to Adjust.

1-knob mode is enabled; turn 1-knob mode off.

Nothing to Paste!

You tried to paste data when the copy buffer was empty.

Cannot Bookmark This Screen.

You tried to bookmark a screen that cannot be bookmarked.

Page Does not Exist.

Cannot Close This Popup.

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The item is not bookmarked.

The operation could not be performed because the USB memory was

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You tried to read an unsupported file format from the USB memory.

Storage Not Found!

The USB memory could not be recognized.

Couldn’t Write File.

The file could not be saved to the USB memory.

Could not overwrite the file on the USB memory because the file is

File Protected!

write-protected.

The name of the directory you tried to create matches the name of an

existing directory.

Already Exists!

This message may also be displayed when editing a file or directory

name.

Couldn’t Access File.

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File Error!

An internal file access error occurred.

Format Error!

An error occurred during formatting.

USB Storage Unmounted! Recorder

Recording stopped because the USB memory was removed during

Stopped.

recording.

Recording stopped because the USB memory became full during

USB Storage Full! Recorder Stopped.

recording.

Maximum Number of Audio Files

The number of files supported by the USB recorder was exceeded.

Exceeded!

Recording or playback stopped because time is required for a USB

USB Storage Busy: Recorder Stopped!

storage device process.

A USB memory device with an allocation unit size under 4096 bytes

Illegal Storage Format! Format USB

was connected. If you record in this situation, the format may become

Device with the Other USB Port.

damaged.

Low Battery!

The backup battery’s voltage is low.

Illegal IP Address!

The IP address setting or gateway setting is incorrect.

The same rates of the console and the computer that is connected to

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB.

the USB TO HOST connector are different. (Console: 44.1 kHz, PC; 48

Console:44100Hz

kHz)

Set the sample rate of the computer to 44.1 kHz.

The same rates of the console and the computer that is connected to

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB.

the USB TO HOST connector are different. (Console: 48kHz, PC;

Console:48000Hz

44.1kHz)

Set the sample rate of the computer to 48kHz.

Two or More Devices Have Same Unit

Two or more devices connected to the NY64-D via the Dante network

ID!

have the same UNIT ID.

Dante Module Error!

An error occurred with the Dante module of the NY64-D or Tio1608-D.

The MAC address of the NY64-D is damaged and communication is not

Illegal Dante Module MAC Address!

possible.

Dante Module Memory Error!

An memory error occurred with the Dante module of the Tio1608-D.

An excessive amount of audio data was sent over the Dante network

Dante Audio Resource Overflow

connected to the NY64-D.

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Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

Hi folks, I’m new around here, so please go easy on me. I’ve done my best to search the forum and the interwebs for answers, but can’t seem to find what I’m looking for.

My church has a Yamaha TF1 as our FOH console. It comes with a license of Nuendo Live 2, which allows us to record each channel to separate WAV files during live performances. This can be used for virtual soundcheck and audio training. However, Nuendo is a clunky solution to operate. I own a license of Ableton Live 10 and would love to use that instead of Nuendo.

We have a Host USB out on the TF1 console which connects to the laptop running Nuendo. When you start Nuendo (with the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver installed), it automatically loads 34 tracks of audio (32 mono + 2 stereo for the masters) and records at the push of a button, essentially. After the recording is done, or after loading a previous recording, and setting the inputs on the TF1 to USB (rather than the default line/mic option), I can playback the recording and control levels/effects etc on the TF1 console as if I had the original musicians and singers on stage.

I spent an hour this morning trying to get the same thing configured in Ableton and couldn’t do it. The best I managed was Ableton recognising a single mic channel for recording, but no other audio tracks in Ableton were picking up any signal from the TF1. Also, playing back multitrack recordings from Ableton to the TF1 resulted in only the stereo masters coming through channel 1 and 2 on the TF1 console.

I would greatly love your help with this. Thanks in advance.


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:32 am

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:41 am

Yes…. not sure exactly what you’re prompting with that link…

Running Ableton Live 10.1.30

If you need more info about my laptop, I can provide that. It’s a 2020 Dell XPS 13 (9310), with Windows 10 Home 20H2 build I believe. As I said, I followed instructions to us the Yamaha Steinberg USB Driver, and can ‘see’ the TF as input and output device options.

I suspect my issue is in the routing within Ableton. This is something I’m completely new to.

(If you posted that link for some other reason, you might want to help me out by spelling it out).


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:13 am

Alright, so an update on this…I’ve partly figured it out.
It was to do with channel routing, which I’ve never used before.

Now that I’ve figured out how to do that, everything seems to be recording and playing back as expected…except…every minute or two, the playback stops briefly and then continues. It’s as if it’s a buffer issue?? Maybe? Any suggestions on what to check?


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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:35 pm

Try reading the link provided, cant and wont help those that wont offer basic info, wasting my time.

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Mark Williams wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:35 pm


Try reading the link provided, cant and wont help those that wont offer basic info, wasting my time.

I did read the link, and feel like I’ve provided a reasonable amount of information. Seems to me you are not willing to help…thanks for wasting my time.

It doesn’t help anyone to repeatedly reply to these threads saying «you didn’t give any info so I’m not going to help you! :roll: «. This just drives away new people looking for help, which is one of the main purposes of these forums. If you truly want to help, then be helpful and let that user know what kind of info to provide so they know going forward. If you are too annoyed to do that, then just don’t reply instead.


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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:51 pm

Ingoo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:40 pm



I did read the link, and feel like I’ve provided a reasonable amount of information. Seems to me you are not willing to help…thanks for wasting my time.

Yet you still FAIL to give us any real info to go on.

Here try reading and following the info required. All basic stuff.

— Make sure you’re using the latest version of Live available to you.
— Update your OS to the most current version (if you can).
— Make sure ALL your drivers are up to date for things like your sound card, computer, motherboard, etc.
— Try the default drivers for your soundcard, ASIO4ALL is not a magic solution to all situations. The included drivers are almost always better in fact.
— Provide some details about your computer system, audio interface, what version of Live you are using, what OS, etc.

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:40 pm

Live is up to date afaik. v10.1.30
My laptop is up to date, including all drivers.
I have provided the info about the interface, OS, computer system and version of Live.

If I’ve neglected some other vital piece of info why don’t you let me know what you need to know.

It seems none of this had anything to do with my initial routing issues…but I guess it could have.

Any help on the glitching audio in playing back multitrack recordings (as described below), I’d be grateful.


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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Mark Williams » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:20 pm

Have you tried adjusting the buffer sizes in Ableton preferences? Another thing worth checking and ensuring both Ableton and Windows are using the exact same settings, sample rates etc.

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Re: Multi-track recording from Yamaha TF1

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by Ingoo » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:41 am

Mark Williams wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:20 pm


Have you tried adjusting the buffer sizes in Ableton preferences? Another thing worth checking and ensuring both Ableton and Windows are using the exact same settings, sample rates etc.

Thanks for sticking with me Mark. That’s greatly appreciated!

When I had Live connected to the TF console with ASIO | Yamaha Steinberg drivers selected, I feel like I didn’t have the option to change the buffer size. I’ll have to double-check that next time I’m at the church and can connect everything up again. This was where my noob brain went immediately when the audio would cut out for a second or so periodically during playback. I’ll check the settings next chance I get and revert with more info.

Yes, AFAIK, Windows, Live and the TF were all set to 48000 sample rate (as this is the fixed rate in the TF console). If either Windows or Ableton (or both) don’t have their sample rate set to 48000, the console complains by putting a «Sample Rate Mismatch. Rate must be 48000» message on the console screen.

Thanks again for your patience mate.


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Item Already Exists. Replace it?

Отображается перед сохранением (перезаписью) библиотеки.

File Already Exists, Replace it?

При использовании функции Save As имя файла, под которым этот файл 
хотели сохранить, оказалось идентичным имени существующего файла.
Отображается перед сохранением (перезаписью) данных.

Exceed Maximum Number!
Library A:XXXX items, Library B:XXXX 
items

Превышено максимальное количество элементов в библиотеке, 
поэтому ее невозможно загрузить.

File System is Not Ready. This Operation 
can Overwrite Existing Files or Directories.

Была попытка начать запись немедленно после подключения 
накопителя USB (то есть до того, как список был сформирован). Была 
попытка изменить имя файла или каталога.

Over Current Error! This USB Device is Not 
Supported. Please Disconnect.

Устройство USB было отсоединено, так как на разъеме USB было 
зафиксировано превышение допустимого тока.

Tio OUTPUT is in Use by Another TF.
«with OUTPUT» in Quick Config is Turned 
off.

Выходной канал OUTPUT устройства Tio1608-D уже используется 
консолью через функцию Quick Config, поэтому кнопка «with OUTPUT» в 
Quick Config выключена для этой консоли.

Operation Failed!

При выполнении операции произошла ошибка. (Ошибка общего 
характера.)
Менее серьезная, чем «Unknown».
(Между «Unknown» и «Ignore».)

Invalid Name!

Имя не соответствует правилам именования.

Operation Ignored.

Функция, назначенная регулятору, не выполнена. Операция не имела 
эффекта.
Это сообщение относится к операциям Tips для регуляторов User 
Defined Knobs.
Это сообщение отображается, когда функцию, назначенную регулятору 
User Defined Knob, невозможно выполнить.

SCENE #XX is Empty!

В наборе Scene, который вы попытались загрузить, нет данных (либо 
данные повреждены).

SCENE #XX is Read Only!

Была попытка перезаписать набор Scene, защищенный от записи.

Cannot Store!

Не удалось сохранить данные в памяти, предназначенной для хранения 
наборов Scene или списков Library.

Cannot Recall!

Не удалось загрузить данные из памяти, предназначенной для 
хранения наборов Scene или списков Library.

Operation Failed. Library X Memory Full.

Была попытка добавления данных в переполненную память.
A или B попадет в X.

Wrong Word Clock! (Slot)

Неправильная настройка частоты дискретизации для NY64-D, поэтому 
карту невозможно синхронизировать с консолью.

Turn Off 1-knob Mode to Adjust.

Активен режим 1-knob; деактивируйте режим 1-knob.

Nothing to Paste!

Была попытка вставки данных из пустого буфера обмена.

Cannot Bookmark This Screen.

Была попытка сохранить закладку на экран, который не рассчитан на 
сохранение закладок.

Page Does not Exist.

Cannot Close This Popup.

Not Bookmarked.

Закладка на этот элемент не сохранена.

File Busy! Operation Denied.

Операцию невозможно выполнить, так как память USB в настоящее 
время используется другим процессом.

Unsupported File Format!

Была попытка чтения файла, формат которого не поддерживается, из 
памяти USB.

Storage Not Found!

Невозможно распознать память USB.

Couldn’t Write File.

Этот файл невозможно сохранить в памяти USB.

File Protected!

Невозможно перезаписать файл, сохраненный в памяти USB, так как 
этот файл защищен от записи.

Already Exists!

Имя каталога, который вы пытаетесь создать, совпадает с именем 
существующего каталога.
Это сообщение может также отображаться при попытке 
редактирования файла или имени каталога.

Couldn’t Access File.

По какой-либо причине невозможно получить доступ к файлу, 
сохраненному в памяти USB.

File Error!

Произошла ошибка доступа к внутреннему файлу.

Format Error!

При выполнении форматирования произошла ошибка.

USB Storage Unmounted! Recorder 
Stopped.

Запись остановлена, так как память USB во время записи была 
отсоединена.

USB Storage Full! Recorder Stopped.

Запись остановлена, так как память USB во время записи была 
переполнена.

Maximum Number of Audio Files 
Exceeded!

Превышено максимальное количество файлов, поддерживаемых 
звукозаписывающим устройством USB.

USB Storage Busy: Recorder Stopped!

Процесс записи или воспроизведения остановлен, так как необходимо 
время на обработку данных для накопителя USB.

Illegal Storage Format! Format USB Device 
with the Other USB Port.

Подключен накопитель USB с размером кластера меньше 4096 байт. 
При выполнении записи в такой ситуации формат может быть 
поврежден.

Low Battery!

Напряжение резервной аккумуляторной батареи опустилось ниже 
нормы.

Illegal IP Address!

IP-адрес или параметры шлюза не соответствуют необходимым 
требованиям.

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB. 
Console:44100Hz

Отличаются значения частоты, установленные на консоли и на 
компьютере, подключенном к разъему USB TO HOST. (Консоль: 44,1 кГц, 
ПК: 48 кГц)
Установите для частоты дискретизации на компьютере значение 
44,1 кГц.

USB Sample Rate Mismatch on USB. 
Console:48000Hz

Отличаются значения частоты, установленные на консоли и на 
компьютере, подключенном к разъему USB TO HOST. (Консоль: 48 кГц, 
ПК: 44,1 кГц)
Установите для частоты дискретизации на компьютере значение 48 кГц.

Two or More Devices Have Same Unit ID!

Два или более устройств, подключенных к NY64-D по сети Dante, 
используют одинаковые UNIT ID.

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Pace

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Feb 16, 2022, 6:24:49 PM2/16/22

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Hi all !!!

I have a YAMAHA TF1 tath is working at 48k. Is it possible to change the sample rate of Qlab to tath rate. Right now, i’m looking to change the rate of the TF1 to match rate of Qlab

BTW, Wath is the sample rate of Qlab ?

Thanks fore your help !

Pascal

Ivan Birthistle

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Feb 16, 2022, 6:36:59 PM2/16/22

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Hi Pascal,

We have a couple of TF1s and they have a few little quirks,one of those being it’s fixed sample rate.

The easiest and safest thing to do is change your files to 48k when using this desk.

The lack of native midi or OSC control is also a little frustrating — Yamaha have issued a setup guide to help us muddle through:

All the best,

Ivan

Ivan Birthistle

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Dublin 2

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Mic Pool

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Feb 16, 2022, 6:55:34 PM2/16/22

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QLab will convert the sample rate of any file targeted by a cue to the sample rate of the interface it is patched to.

There may be a marginal advantage, and it’s certainly good practice to standardise all your files to a sample rate. And that would typically be 48KHz.

Some consoles will only run at 96KHz, and it’s debatable if matching your files to this rate is worth the extra file size and data throughput that would entail.

Mic

Pace

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Feb 16, 2022, 9:58:07 PM2/16/22

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OK !   So how do you convert 44.1k to to 48k ?  Is there any converter ?

Pace

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Feb 16, 2022, 10:14:31 PM2/16/22

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Also, Qlab  sees the yamaha TF1.  But TF1 displays:   USB  sample rate mismatch on USB. Console 48000hz.

Ivan Birthistle

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Feb 16, 2022, 10:14:46 PM2/16/22

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Easy done in Audacity or iTunes

Audacity: In the bottom left corner change your sample rate to 48k. Drag and drop your files in individually, then export audio as new file (check this doesn’t change with each import).

Pace

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Feb 16, 2022, 11:15:59 PM2/16/22

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Hi Ivan !!!

I did convert one file to 48k to try but it is not working.   I dont think it as to do with Qlab. The second you plug the USB (TF1 to Mac) the sample rate error displays.

Ivan Birthistle

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Feb 16, 2022, 11:51:11 PM2/16/22

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Try going to Applications>Utilities>Audio Midi Setup this is essentially your controls for most audio interfaces you may connect, esp plug-and-play devices, the TF1 settings may need to be set there

I’m at home now but will check for you in college tomorrow

micpool

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Feb 17, 2022, 1:45:16 AM2/17/22

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On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 8:51:11 PM UTC ivan wrote:

Try going to Applications>Utilities>Audio Midi Setup this is essentially your controls for most audio interfaces you may connect, esp plug-and-play devices, 

Ivan is right. Audio MIDI settings will be where to fix your sample rate mismatch. The mismatch applies to the whole of your Mac and is not QLab specific.

What is really annoying though is interfaces which misreport their available sample rates for Core Audio. The TF1 should really only offer 48Khz.

The Digico UB MADI is another offender, which offers 44.1KHz or 48Khz, but is again  actually fixed at 48KHz and sounds like a bag of spanners if the Mac attempts to connect at 44.1Khz

With regard to converting 44.1Khz files to 48Khz. Most of the time you really don’t need to bother. The sample rate conversion QLab uses is really good and usually you don’t usually need to think about it.

If you are playing something approaching the maximum number of simultaneous audio tracks that your QLab system can handle, then eliminating sample rate conversion may give you a few more before dropped samples. 

In terms of ultimate audio quality there is little audible difference in doing a conversion on the fly during playback, or rendering out new 48Khz versions from 44.1Khz files using the usual batch converters. But by all means render a few 48Khz files from 44.1 sources using a couple of different converters, and see if you can hear a difference. 

Generally, once your mac and TF1 are talking to each other at the correct sample rate, the actual sample rate of your audio files in QLab  is a pretty minor consideration.

Mic

Pace

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